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Is This What Happens When Muslims Go To American Jails And Meet Non Muslims?

LA Editor — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:34:49 +0000

its a well knowen fact that groups recruit new members in prison such as most white supremist groups the mexican mafia ,crips and bloods,do we now want to have muslim terriost recruiting in our prisons?or is some place like gitmo better?
NEWBURGH, N.Y. – The four men accused of plotting to bomb New York City synagogues and shoot down military airplanes with missiles are down-and-out ex-convicts living on the margins in a faded industrial city.
One is a petty criminal who spent a day in 2002 snatching purses and shooting at people with a BB gun from an SUV. His lawyer calls him “intellectually challenged.”
Three have histories of drug convictions, one of them for selling narcotics in a school zone. The man prosecutors portrayed as the instigator of the scheme said he smoked pot the day he planned to blow up the temples.
But if they sometimes seemed amateurish, the men were dangerous people fueled by their hatred for Jews and America, prosecutors said. The plotters managed to get their hands on what they thought were lethal explosives and a surface-to-air missile system, only to find out that they were inert devices supplied by the FBI in a sting operation.
“It’s hard to envision a more chilling plot,” assistant U.S. attorney Eric Snyder said. “These are extremely violent men.”
The arrests follow a long line of homegrown, headline-making terror plots since Sept. 11 that never came close to reality because the FBI inserted itself in early stages. Authorities have broken up plots with targets including the Sears Tower in Chicago, the Herald Square subway station in Manhattan, underground gas pipes at John F. Kennedy International Airport, the Fort Dix military base in New Jersey and tunnels underneath the Hudson River.
James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams and Laguerre Payen were calm as they appeared in court Thursday, their hands shackled, to answer charges of conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction within the U.S. and conspiracy to acquire and use anti-aircraft missiles. They did not enter pleas and were held without bail; they face life in prison if convicted.
Besides destroying the two synagogues in the heavily Jewish Riverdale section of the Bronx, they intended to shoot down planes at the Air National Guard base in Newburgh, about 50 miles north of New York City, prosecutors said.
Relatives said the defendants were struggling men who worked at places such as Wal-Mart, a landscaping company and a warehouse when they weren’t behind bars. Payen’s lawyer said he was on medication for schizophrenia and has “a very low borderline” IQ.
“You don’t raise your children to be terrorists,” said Aahkiyaah Cummings, his aunt. “I don’t know that guy that was arrested.”
Just four years ago, Williams, now 28, told a parole board that prison was a wake-up call after his conviction on drug and weapons charges — drugs he said he sold because he was making only $150 a week in his job.
Onta Williams, 32, and Cromitie have also served prison sentences for drug convictions — Cromitie said in court he had used marijuana as recently as Wednesday. He said he was 55, though law enforcement records give his age as 44.
Payen, 27, did time for attempted assault — in 2002, he and others fired a BB gun out an SUV window, hitting two people in the head. He snatched purses from two women later the same day, said state Division of Parole spokeswoman Heather Groll.
Payen appears to be a Haitian citizen, while the other three are Americans. The Williamses are not related.
New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said he believed the defendants knew each other from their time behind bars. Relatives said Payen, David Williams and Onta (AWN’-tay) Williams were introduced to Islam in prison, where conversion to the faith is common.
Cromitie in June
“The Onta I know wouldn’t do something like this, but the new Onta, yeah,” said Richard Williams, an uncle. “He wasn’t raised this way. All this happened when he became a Muslim in prison.”
Cromitie was burning with anger about the U.S. war in Afghanistan, where his parents had lived before he was born, according to the criminal complaint. He told the informant he was interested in jihad and “doing something to America” and was crestfallen that “the best target (the World Trade Center) was hit already,” the complaint said.
In the same conversation, Cromitie said: “I hate those mother——-, those f—— Jewish b—— …. I would like to get (destroy) a synagogue,” according to the complaint.
In one conversation, Cromitie said he longed to shoot Jews in the head as they walked on the street near a synagogue,

Why Asian American Females In Interracial Relationships Are Worthy Of The “sell Out” Moniker.?

LA Editor — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:33:43 +0000

This concerns Asian Female/white male hypocrisy:
Asian American females often assert that Asian males are intolerant of Asian female/white male interracial relationships yet the truth is that any intolerance with Asian interracial relationships exists with white males who support Asian female/White male relationships yet denounce Asian male/white female relationships or any relationship involving white females and nonwhite males in general. Not only do white males have a history of violence and prohibition against these kinds of relationships but they have shown their discontent of these relationships through violence, laws that inhibit these relationships and in modern times divergent depictions of support for white males in interracial relationships and disapproval of Asian males in relationships with white females and any relationships of nonwhite males with white females in general.
Asian females do not have the right to question Asian male tolerance towards Asian female interracial relationships with white males as Asian males have been more than tolerant with these kinds of relationships probably to a fault. The fact that there aren’t news stories about Asian males acting disapprovingly towards Af/WM relationships by spitting, punching, verbally abusing or trying to physically or socially inhibit these relationships prove that Asian males are more decent guys than white guys when it comes to these kinds of relationships. White males have had a history of inhibiting their women from having relationships with nonwhite males even to this day through violence, passing of laws, social and media conditioning and other despicable acts of intolerance.
In modern times, white males are prevented from committing racist and hypocritical actions to prevent nonwhite male unions with white females by law, yet these racist and hypocritical sentiments are shown through social disapproval and media disapproval of nonwhite males with white females and support for white male/nonwhite female relationships. This includes violent and threatening actions shown to relationships between nonwhite males and white women.
If white males were given the power, they would make every effort to inhibit relationships between white women and nonwhite males. In modern times, the only real way the white male can control interracial relationships is to manipulate images in the media hoping that these images would shield white women from interracial relationships with nonwhite males and if possible promote nonwhite female relationships with white males.
It’s difficult for white males to manipulate the black and Hispanic community in this regard because their population sizes are too large and because they have political and social influence that Asians do not have. Blacks in this country have the NAACP, Nation of Islam, Bloods and Crips street gangs to defend against white media denigration and manipulation of their people. If they can’t influence the media to control their image through politics, they can thug their way to make sure that their images are portrayed correctly. Hispanic groups have a huge population base with bordering nations which minimizes them from the negative effects of the American media. A majority of them keep true to their identity which makes it hard for the media to control their social patterns.
Asian people neither have a large population size in this country nor do they have any prominent social or political groups that can defend against the negative manipulation of the white media which allows whites to divide and manipulate Asian Americans. They have made Asian female interracial relationships with white males acceptable yet denounce any unions between Asian males and white females. Though this hasn’t stopped Asian male interracial relationships with white females, they are doing their best to make sure that Asian males have a hard time with these relationships.
Asian women are deserving of the “sell out” moniker not because they’re in interracial relationship with white males but because even though they know that white males have a history of racist hypocritical patterns when it comes to Asian interracial relationships, they see no reason to question this hypocrisy yet finds it easy to blame Asian males to boaster their hypocritical behavior.
Asian females do not have the right to question Asian guys for questioning their interracial relationships when white males have had a history of making it illegal and in the present time denouncing Asian male relationships with white females. It is because of the Asian female’s unquestionable acceptance of white male hypocrisy and racist pattern which includes constant deriding of Asian males to support their relationships that they are worthy of the sell out moniker from Asian males and everybody else who’s familiar the meaning of word “decency.”

Why Are Asian Women Such Sellouts That They’d Point Out To Asian Male Intollerance When The Real Intolerance

LA Editor — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:32:03 +0000

Why are Asian women such sellouts that they’d point out to Asian male intollerance when the real intolerance exist with white guys when it comes to Asian interracial relationships?
Asian American females often assert that Asian males are intolerant of Asian female/white male interracial relationships yet the truth is that any intolerance with Asian interracial relationships exists with white males who support Asian female/White male relationships yet denounce Asian male/white female relationships or any relationship involving white females and nonwhite males in general. Not only do white males have a history of violence and prohibition against these kinds of relationships but they have shown their discontent of these relationships through violence, laws that inhibit these relationships and in modern times divergent depictions of support for white males in interracial relationships and disapproval of Asian males in relationships with white females and any relationships of nonwhite males with white females in general.
Asian females do not have the right to question Asian male tolerance towards Asian female interracial relationships with white males as Asian males have been more than tolerant with these kinds of relationships probably to a fault. The fact that there aren’t news stories about Asian males acting disapprovingly towards Af/WM relationships by spitting, punching, verbally abusing or trying to physically or socially inhibit these relationships prove that Asian males are more decent guys than white guys when it comes to these kinds of relationships. White males have had a history of inhibiting their women from having relationships with nonwhite males even to this day through violence, passing of laws, social and media conditioning and other despicable acts of intolerance.
In modern times, white males are prevented from committing racist and hypocritical actions to prevent nonwhite male unions with white females by law, yet these racist and hypocritical sentiments are shown through social disapproval and media disapproval of nonwhite males with white females and support for white male/nonwhite female relationships. This includes violent and threatening actions shown to relationships between nonwhite males and white women.
If white males were given the power, they would make every effort to inhibit relationships between white women and nonwhite males. In modern times, the only real way the white male can control interracial relationships is to manipulate images in the media hoping that these images would shield white women from interracial relationships with nonwhite males and if possible promote nonwhite female relationships with white males.
It’s difficult for white males to manipulate the black and Hispanic community in this regard because their population sizes are too large and because they have political and social influence that Asians do not have. Blacks in this country have the NAACP, Nation of Islam, Bloods and Crips street gangs to defend against white media denigration and manipulation of their people. If they can’t influence the media to control their image through politics, they can thug their way to make sure that their images are portrayed correctly. Hispanic groups have a huge population base with bordering nations which minimizes them from the negative effects of the American media. A majority of them keep true to their identity which makes it hard for the media to control their social patterns.
Asian people neither have a large population size in this country nor do they have any prominent social or political groups that can defend against the negative manipulation of the white media which allows whites to divide and manipulate Asian Americans. They have made Asian female interracial relationships with white males acceptable yet denounce any unions between Asian males and white females. Though this hasn’t stopped Asian male interracial relationships with white females, they are doing their best to make sure that Asian males have a hard time with these relationships.
Asian women are deserving of the “sell out” moniker not because they’re in interracial relationship with white males but because even though they know that white males have a history of racist hypocritical patterns when it comes to Asian interracial relationships, they see no reason to question this hypocrisy yet finds it easy to blame Asian males to boaster their hypocritical behavior.
Asian females do not have the right to question Asian guys for questioning their interracial relationships when white males have had a history of making it illegal and in the present time denouncing Asian male relationships with white females. It is because of the Asian female’s unquestionable acceptance of white male hypocrisy and racist pattern which includes constant deriding of Asian males to support their relationships that they are worthy of the sell out moniker from Asian males and everybody else who’s familiar the meaning of word “decency.”

Who Has A Gift Working With The Brothers & Sisters On Lock Down In Prison, Or Was In Gangs & Wants To Help Us?

LA Editor — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:31:31 +0000

If you want to be part of our work to help reunite the gangs by reconnecting them to their community service roots as street organizations struggling to bring change in the community, holla back. For those who don’t know the history, I will inform you that the Bloods (blood brothers) started off with Bunchie Carter who started the Slawsons/PIRUS (panthers in red uniform) with the intention of helping to give knowledge of self to the most hardened gambers, hustlers, and killers who were desperately trying to survive a racist system. The Crips started from children who were fed in the Panther breakfast, lunch, and dinner programs that inspired the public school breakfast programs of today. Panthers serving Black people’s interests threatened White oppressive power, so COINTELPRO (FBI’s special task force) did their usual divide and conquer thing and intercepted mail and altered messages to create division, They also dressed as Crips and killed and robbed so that people and even Bloods would blame Crips. Don’t think we are paranoid. If you google it, you will find that we were called Public enemy number one by a president, by Reagan, and by J. Edgar Hoover to the extent that the police fired on us on sight because they were at war with us. They even captured Tupac Shakur’s mother with the Panther 21 and said that they were plotting to blow up flowers in the Botanical gardens. Would u believe it??? They tried to attack some of the brothers we called together when we tried to unite and raise the consciousness of the Bloods, the Crips, and Latin Kings so they could use their influence for positive purposes.

Gangs………?

LA Editor — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:29:20 +0000

Ok. You’ve all probably hears of KKK or Crips or Bloods right?
Well, how do those people accually get into the gang?
Not that I’d ever want to.
I was just kinda thinking about it from this thing i saw on some history channel.
So yeah….
Let me know.
If you know.

Why Is Lil Wayne So Popular? Why Do You Like Him Or Dislike Him? ?

LA Editor — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:28:14 +0000

I have to say that people that like Lil wayne kind of make me irritated, but I am a very understandable person and let anyone like who they like in Hip Hop. BUT My deal with Lil Wayne is that this guy says he Freestyles EVERYTHING. Now I have seen, I think 4 times where he has been asked to freestyle on camera usually on a TV show. He has “freestyled” a rap that was from an upcoming mixtape already recorded. I know this because the I youtubed some stuff and even seen a NEW Rap City on TV at home one day, and these raps were on later recorded albums or mixtapes. This right there makes him lose a lot of credibality because he is a liar to me. HAHA this makes me laugh! Listen HOW MANY SONGS DOES THIS GUY HAVE? IF he FREESTYLES ALL OF THEM THEN THE DUDE SHOULD FREESTYLE SONGS AT CONCERTS! He kissed Baby on the lips, yet he says no homo alot, to make sure nobody mistakes him for being gay. Dude If your not gay then You don’t have to worry about nothing. He reps Blood. He might know Bloods but he is not a blood. Because Bloods, Crips, 18 street, MS13,, ect. “BANG” Which means put in work for your “SET” I have never heard of Lil Wayne killing or confronting any opposing Gang Member from his hood. I mean gangbanging is serious s**t, Lil wayne travels the country and never finds any rival gangs ANYWHERE? He also yells in his rhymes that he will beat anyone in a freestyle battle. How come He doesnt challenge anyone? Lastly which I can think of is that I have heard him say some really unique punchlines and metaphors, BUT I think he writes or has a ghostwriter, and He just throws rhymes together. I have never heard anyone talk about cash, hoes, weed, promethezine, and guns so much. All a lil wayne song is a bunch of rhymes in a different way about the same stuff he raps about in everysong. In a 16 about two bars are dedicated to a topic of the song. 2 pac, Biggie and Nas will always be remembered because 2 pac was a POET first and Gangster Second. He talked about real situations in Black communities and across America. Biggie had a sick wordplay, like Lil wayne does sometimes, BUT, He had a beautiful gift to paint a picture with his words and tell a story that was like in a gangster flick. Nas is all about the social upbringing with ill rhymes and positive outlooks while still telling you the negatives in Queensbridge and America Also A great Storyteller. Also he killed Jay-Z in ether who was everyones fav rapper, who I only thing Is the greatest Businessman/Rapper In Hip Hop (I like the Old Jay before the roc family). Lil wyane will go down in History as a waste of records and mixtapes. I Don’t like him and I had to vent while asking a Question at the same time. DO YOU HATE LIL WAYNE AS MUCH AS I DO?
Props- Wu Tang, Jedi Mind, Nas, Tupac, Biggie, Immortal Technique, Common, Talib Kwali, eminem, Ice Cube and much much more!

Was Rush Right? Which League Has The Most Off The Field Issues– Mlb, Nba, Nfl, Nhl?

LA Editor — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:25:11 +0000

Limbaugh recently said that the nfl looks like a gang fight between crips and bloods without weapons. I find that stupid and bigoted, but i expect that from him. That being said the nfl has gotten a free pass from fans and media when it comes to the image of its players. While the nba are thugs noone ever says that about the nfl. No league has had more players in trouble with the law over its history, but its never been talked about by fans and media until now. does anyone agree with rush and also if you had to rank the players off the field or court behavior of all the major sports how would your ranking look. To me it would be nhl, mlb, nba, nfl. sorry i dont consider nascar or golf sports.

Whats Up With California Sports, Red Vs Blue?

LA Editor — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:23:47 +0000

Is there a history behind it?
Blue: vs Red:
Dodger vs Angels
UCLA vs USC
Crips vs bloods? (lol)
Clippers are red, but good thing Lakers are purple..
anyways why do they have red vs blue alot?

Has There Ever Been A R&s Ceasefire?

LA Editor — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:22:54 +0000

I am fairly new to this thing and I realize things would get boring quick. But, has it ever been attempted? If so, who was the first to break it and how long did it last? History is full of successful examples (Bloods&Crips, Hatfields&McCoys, Isreal and Palestine, Branch Davidians&ATF, Shiites and Sunnis).

Can Anybody Recommend Any Websites, Books, Movies, Etc. Where I Can Learn About Gangs?

LA Editor — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:21:12 +0000

I especially want to learn about their HISTORY and how they originated. Bloods, crips, nortenas, surenas, and the Mafia are some of the gangs I’m talking about.
NO, I’m not trying to become a part of one, they are pointless to join. I just want to learn some more about them cuz I plan on writing about them. I want to convince kids my age not to join.
If you are part of one (I feel bad for you >.>) you will probably be able to answers some questions I have, so let me know what you know.